Carl Stephenson

But when, uh, Tom Rothrock and Rob Schnapf of, of the nascent Bong Load Records came to him and were like, "Hey, we should try putting a hip-hop beat on here.

Do you like hip-hop?" They just called Carl Stephenson, who was a guy who made beats for people like the Geto Boys, and invited Beck over.

And, you know, a lot of it is hard to decipher for what, what is remembrance, what is false remembrance, what is myth, but you're very right that Beck had no real experience as a rapper.

He was, he was not getting up on stage and he was not doing, like, s- you know, cyphers and rap battles prior to [laughs] recording Loser.

That he could come up with on the fly.

So he may have had some vague idea beforehand, but from all accounts that I've seen, in, on that day in Carl Stephenson's apartment during the six-odd hours before his girlfriend got home and had to kick them out 'cause she hated the noise, uh, you know, Beck came up with the vast majority of that song.

And I, I believe it, because at that stage, he was cranking...

I mean, when he met Tom Rothrock at that Dictate concert, the, the story goes that Tom, according to Tom, Tom said, uh, "You know, I loved that song you did.