Cardboard Boxer

And so he wrote New Mutants with me and he wrote episodes of The Stand.

He directed a, a movie called Cardboard Boxer and he wrote one that Halle Berry starred in called Kidnap.

Um, so we've been friends forever.

Uh, and uh, so we grew up really just obsessed with movies, making movies on home video, uh, on our parents' camcorders, you know? And uh, we really, it was embarrassing, we didn't really have any other interest than, like, books, movies, and music.