Captain Black

Yeah.

you smoke nothing but like captain black white and you're just throwing like GLP.

What's captain black.

Oh, that's just a standard like black Cavendish, right?

Yeah.

A lot of those blends, I would say, probably classify as codger, at least in North America.

Like we're talking your half and halves, Sir Walter Raleigh's, Captain Black's, Granger, Velvet, all these things, right? Carter Hall.

Yeah.

Prince Albert.

but it stands apart from any branding besides the product itself

okay yeah that's a great point

and so i think a combination of that and just the way they sort of used to and you know like a lot of these do have some variations with them like captain black that almost excludes captain black as a codger or sale sale which i would definitely say is a codger but again like even sir walter raleigh has like an aromatic version right but it's still sir walter raleigh it's just a different version of the same thing right and i think that like in a way you know that sort of blurs the line a little bit yeah but at the same time i think it still stands or like i think the point still stands

Okay, yeah, I definitely see what you're saying there.