Captain Batel

Mm-hmm.

So Pike genuinely dealing with some trauma and how the parallel universe life that he experienced before Batel ascended, where he had a daughter and then had to, like, kind of, kind of cruelly say goodbye to that life, and then has, now has a breakdown with that therapist.

Um, tell me your thoughts.

What'd you think about that? Did you, hit you? Did you like it?

And, you know, when he does and he performs, it's always great.

And I think in Season 3, uh, Season 3 in "Shuttlepod One," when he was having that big argument, uh, with Batel at the very end, that's when I really got to work with Anson in terms of, like, playing with the emotion and seeing what he brought.

And he just gave lots of different flavors of things to try and things to do even for his costar when he was off camera.

And that's-