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Like, they're so extreme, and I think I was listening to, to one of your pods talking about optimization, and I think, I don't think Bryan Johnson had been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease by then, but I've always said, "How can you take that many supplements a day?" And the same with Dave, who's an absolute legend, and I've met the guy, but it's like wow, this is extreme.

And I think that's what we think about biohacking.

You know, we think about these kind of tech bros.

We think about millionaires spending shitloads of money, and they've got all this time, and they're all trying to reverse their age and live to 180, and it just all seems really polarizing.

To me it did.

I was just like, whoa.

That's great

What infrastructure challenges do you see most often and how can credit unions better position themselves for success?

Of course, the irony of the digital transformation in financial services is that the faster the institution moves, the more compliance risk they accidentally accumulate.

The pressure to launch a new digital product is real.

Members expected, boards expected.

Obviously, the competition is on their heels.

But speed without a solid infrastructure foundation creates debt that comes due at exam time.

And that debt accumulates and it becomes bigger and bigger.

So as regulators place more focus on the digital environment, what should credit union leaders be doing to ensure that they can confidently explain their technology architecture during an examination?

But how did you get into biohacking and living biohacking? having a longer health span as well that's a that's that's a concept that i that i love because it really makes the difference of like how we live our life rather than just how long

absolutely yeah that quality of life is so important and i think what i'm seeing now is we're this sort of generation where we've got young kids or teenage kids and elderly parents and a lot of people are seeing their parents with dementia or they're not able to walk they're putting them in homes and it's really confronting because we don't want to end up in that place so i think this is there's almost like a health revolution going on where we're like, we know more now.

We've got this information and we want to live well for longer.

And that health span piece is so important.

So I think similar, when I first sort of got into the biohacking space, it was very male.

It was very tech pro.

It was, you know, you needed gazillions of dollars and all this time on your hands to reverse your biological age.

I just know this will work for most people that I see.

Can you take us through those key hormones and sort of explain them in real plain language as you did in that article?

Yes.

Look, I've done a whole series on that, on the C-suite and I've done like the mood C-suite, the sleep C-suite, because I... sleep suite c-suite it's a bit of a tongue twister that one um and then I did the stress one as well because I think it's quite an interesting way to sort of view things on how are we being controlled and operated yeah what's going on at a board level in our body and yeah and you've got like Cortisol is the CEO.

It's what gets us up in the morning.

It's like, okay, I'm in charge.

Let's do this.

Your adrenaline sort of steps in.

What did that look like?