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yeah.

And it's, that was one of the most important things I learned from, from any of my corporate experience was, you know, ideas are great.

Um, and even execution is great, but it's something that, uh, Angelica, she's in LA now, um, back with Red Bull, but when we were doing like Red Bull music festival, Chicago, which was so much fun, I loved running that.

That was a, that was just a great era of life, like the festival era.

Um, Um, but she was like, it's not just about if you'll get it done.

It's like, how did everybody feel on the way there? Right.

It's actually quite simple.

Mm-hmm.

Red Bull Music Festival New York, Red Bull Music Academy in Berlin, and I was just curating shows and amongst the culture, et cetera.

But as that was happening, that's happening in my corporate life.

In my personal life, you know, I graduated in 2015, but I was here in St. Louis in North County in 2014.

So when the Ferguson uprising happened, You know, that was something that I was there, I was at the protest, getting tear gassed, following the lead of people that I respect greatly, Ohan, Ashe, and Kayla Reed, and others who were on the ground who, you know, if they would post, I would be there.

And during that time, it felt like the entire nation is following the story, but they've got it wrong.

And it was so frustrating.

groups and those individuals so what it's a two-part question what are some of the groups that you think are you know actually making a huge impact and I know there's so many to count but and then also the second version of that is like without those groups where do you think we would be at at this point that's a that's a hard question I know