Cameron Carter-Vickers

I think he did that really well and it ended up in success.

Where I am more concerned this season is when you see the two most senior professionals in the club and members of the leadership group in Callum McGregor and Cameron Carter-Vickers openingly questioning and what they're being asked to do on the pitch, and really seeming to more or less say that there is insufficient organisation, insufficient shape, insufficient patterns of play, etc.

That is massively alarming, because we're back to almost this kind of open dissent that we saw under Wilfred Nancy's brief tenure.

And as I said at that time, If the players are not with you, you're pretty much done.

And whilst, as I say, that may not fully be the case here, we don't know, certainly you can only respond to those very strong signals in that sense and be concerned about it.

Is it the fact they said it at all, Alan, or is it because what they said particularly resonated with you with what you're seeing in the team too?

I completely understand and agree with what Cameron Carter-Vickers said.

Whilst it's interesting, and maybe, John, you've got more insight into this than me, operating in the formal media world, that reaction to what Carter Vickers said seemed to generate a certain reaction from pundits, and when Callum McGregor said almost exactly the same thing, it didn't, which probably is an interesting story in itself, but anyway, that's outside of my...

And not only what you're seeing in the pitch, I think Celtic are just an absolute PR disaster just now.

I mean... through all the sort of scrutiny that comes I think the players aren't helping themselves with some of their comments I don't think Martin O'Neill's helping himself with some of his comments we heard Cameron Carter-Vickers what he said after the Rangers Celtic game I didn't agree at all with Calum McGregor's comments last week and Martin O'Neill came out and agreed with him the following press conference so I think everything at this moment in time seems a little bit of worrying I don't know how much longer you can use this while we're top of the league because on Wednesday If Celtic had went and done the business against Dundee United, the narrative at that point was they could be nine points clear at the top of the table come Sunday.

They're only four points now, four days later, with Rangers having a game in hand.

And people expect that to become one.

The amount of times that Fulcote just turned the ball over and went straight down the heart of Celtic, that has to be a massive worry for Martin O'Neill and his coaching staff.

Yeah, and I just want to pick up on something you said, Kevin, about the centre-half position.

I remember the start of the season, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think it was Sean Maloney that said that Celtic are content with the centre-half position, and I remember saying on the show that that baffled me, because your best centre-half, who's been... terrific for Celtic it's Cameron Carter-Vickers and there's never been a guarantee that Cameron Carter-Vickers sorry can play 15 games in a row never mind complete a season so you're then relying on obviously the other three one of them is Dane Murray who has been hugely untested at 24 year old and the other two in trustee and Liam Scales Celtic fans have never been a fan of so I actually thought the centre half position was almost one of the priority positions going into the summer you're now left with that position and then just to follow on to what Marvin was saying in terms of Celtic off the ball that's actually why there's a clamour for Yang to come back and play it's because what he gives the team off the ball it's not even what he gives the team on the ball

see just quickly on that and don't be too clever after the event and then nitpick at everything but is there a case to say that actually now would have been the time to just keep Dan Murray in give him a bit of run of games Cameron Carter-Vickers is coming back Celtic never used even when he was in his pomp Celtic it feels like wouldn't risk him on the Astro but now this goes back to what we're saying where the next time when's Dan Murray going to come back in and Ibrook's away or something and then he'll have a tough day inevitably and then he'll be back until he's not good enough was this not the ideal chance to keep him in