Calouste Gulbenkian

[música de fundo] Nos anos 60, o empresário Lúcio Tomé Feteira era considerado um dos homens mais ricos do mundo.

Nasceu em Vieira de Leiria, passou uma parte da vida no Rio de Janeiro e conhecia milionários como Calouste Gulbenkian ou David Rockefeller.

Quando morreu, em dezembro de 2000, poucos dias antes de fazer noventa e nove anos, deixou uma fortuna que ainda hoje continua por dividir.

Uma das herdeiras de Lúcio Tomé Feteira era a portuguesa Rosalina Ribeiro, ex-secretária do Industrial e companheira dele ao longo das últimas três décadas de vida.

I remember my mom taking me to a place that is very, very special.

So I was born and grew up in Lisbon, a place called Gulbenkian, which was right next to my house, right by my house.

And that place, Gulbenkian, is the name of a man, an Armenian man named Kallust Gulbenkian.

And it's serendipity, really.

This man is really interesting because he was an Armenian man.

mean, you said in when we were doing our pre-interview, you said something that really hit me and stayed with me, is that art really helps people people expand empathy and understanding and not just for the art itself but for the world around them and do you feel especially given the world today i feel like art should be something we are introducing to more people globally to give them that understanding

Yeah, absolutely.

I really do feel that we are suffering from a sort of elitist pandemic in contemporary arts because we, the art system, and that's why I spoke about Gulbenkian, Gulbenkian was an amazing accident, you know, to happen to Portugal because back in the day before 1974, Gulbenkian, the foundation, would give artists grants to come to the UK, for example.

So what's the book? The book is Mr.

5%, The Many Lives of Calouste Gulbenkian, the World's Richest Man, by a fellow called Jonathan Conlon, who is an economic historian.

Right.

Well worth a read.