
Call Sign Chaos: Learning to Lead
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Oct 14, 2026
562: The Deadly Cost of Bad Leadership. Lessons From Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. With Bing West
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3:27Jocko WillinkHOST
He served as Assi- Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs for President Reagan in the 1980s, and he embedded with troops during the heaviest fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan, including time with the 3/8 Marines in Ramadi in 2006, while I was in Ramadi and while his son, Owen, was down the road from us in Habbaniyah.
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3:50Jocko WillinkHOST
He has authored and co-authored a dozen books, including The Village, No True Glory, The Strongest Tribe, Into the Fire with Dakota Meyer, which we covered on this podcast, episode 115, Call Sign Chaos with General Jim Mattis, and finally, his latest book, Cat Five: The 2033 War.
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4:10Jocko WillinkHOST
It is an honor to have him with us here tonight to discuss his experiences and lessons learned.
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4:16Jocko WillinkHOST
Bing, great to meet you.
Being Intentional: Deliberate Human Reasoning
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20:02Anthony SimmonsHOST
discipline averts punishment it's like that preventive maintenance on your vehicle you know you're saved on those high costs of corrective maintenance by doing the preventive maintenance so you do two things you know you keep your pockets healthier and it gives you back that valuable time that you have wasted away by not keeping your car in good repair also planning must be intentional crisis management is failed management you know you should have a contingency in place to allow those options to address dynamic environments, to pace these uncertain times that we're in.
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20:35Anthony SimmonsHOST
In his book, Call Sign Chaos, Jim Mattis says, it's important to have more than one course of action.
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20:42Anthony SimmonsHOST
It serves as your shock absorber when you are hit with the unknown.
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20:45Anthony SimmonsHOST
It keeps you Out of the corner.