Kalimotxo

But then I remembered Manny's family's from Spain, part of his family's from Spain, when they were about eight years old, we're in Spain and they're offering them Coca-Cola and wine.

It's a drink called Cali Mocho.

And I was like, why are my kids drinking wine at eight? So there was this cultural difference.

But I will say the one issue that we sort of, not to pivot, but we, had a lot of trouble with is a lot of our friends were okay with their underage kids, like, let's say 16 or 17, having boyfriends and girlfriends sleep over in the same room at the house.

Red wine and Coke.

It's called a Cali Mocho.

Cali Mocho.

And also, there's a lot of cats there.

And I'm a big fan.

She's Catalan.

And they do this thing called, and I'm going to totally mess it up, Cali Mocho? I think that's what it is.

This is a combination of red wine and Coca-Cola.

It's what kids drink when they want to get drunk at an early age, because it's kind of like taking something which is palatable for them and then mixing it with something which is going to get them absolutely loaded.

Now, the Calimotxo, my goodness, Cali-

Calimocho.

Oh, there you go, Calimocho, originated in n- in 1920s Spain, but you write that its popularity traces to a Basque festival in nine- 1970s where organizers had liters of wine [laughs] that tasted so bad it couldn't be served by its own or on its own.

What is the etiquette around mixing wine with cola today in Spain? Would Spanish winemakers be aghast at that kind of practice or...

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