Calciopoli
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Oct 7, 2026
Carlo GarganeseHOST
They shouldn't punish Man City.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
They should try and do some kind of settlement, try and water it down, the punishment, because we don't want to risk, and I've heard this being said by some really high profile pundits, we don't want to risk what happened to the Serie A after Calciopoli in 2006, where financially, uh the league collapsed uh the standing of the league collapsed and it led you know it wasn't the only reason there are other reasons structurally that were already in place but it led to the collapse of Serie A as the best league and one of the best leagues to what has what has become of the Serie A so you know it's an interesting one um at least they're admitting it um I mean so the question has been asked could the Premier League which has become just this massive monopoly.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
It's just become too powerful for every other league.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
It's too rich.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
It is the super league.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
We've detailed that.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
Could the Premier League collapse like Serie A did after Calciopoli?
Nima TavallaeyHOST
Look, I think one of the reasons...
Lawrence OstlereHOST
Maybe the final thing to discuss today is the kind of broader impact on the Premier League and its place in European football.
Lawrence OstlereHOST
Miguel, we talked in a previous episode about Calciopoli's scandal in Italy.
Lawrence OstlereHOST
Jack, you'll know a lot about that as well.
Lawrence OstlereHOST
It's often regarded and cited as a moment that triggered or was key to the downfall, down spiral of Italian football in Serie A.
Miguel DelaneyPANELIST
This season is obviously very damaging.
Miguel DelaneyPANELIST
And some people who have worked on Serie A would point to certain parallels in the build-up to this, not least kind of a bit more kind of financial opaqueness.
Miguel DelaneyPANELIST
Like the period up to Calciopoli, do you remember it was kind of defined by a lot of the big clubs in Italy doing these weird deals with each other that felt like basically accounting tricks? You know, suddenly they were doing deals on big players, all this sort of thing, which has had parallels to the Premier League, which points to, I think, a league that was getting so strong, but as a consequence of elements or core details of it that weren't necessarily what you'd want for a sustainable league kind of coming together.
Miguel DelaneyPANELIST
But I think with Calciopoli, Serie A was already in a place where it did feel like it was...
Jack Pitt-BrookeHOST
But do you think w- without going back over the, over the, the kind of X's and O's, as people say, of this week, we talked about it from the perspective of Manchester City and what it means for them.
Jack Pitt-BrookeHOST
And we also talked in the last episode about English football, like where it sits in English football, how it compares to Calciopoli, and so on.
Jack Pitt-BrookeHOST
But I think today, we w- we just wanna focus on the Premier League.
Jack Pitt-BrookeHOST
The Premier League as a competition, the Premier League as an institution, the Premier League as an idea.
Miguel DelaneyGUEST
But that doesn't, doesn't preclude the fact I think this is going to be a bad season.
Miguel DelaneyGUEST
This is damaging.
Miguel DelaneyGUEST
I know you've discussed Calciopoli in another pod, but it has the potential to...
Miguel DelaneyGUEST
This is something I've been thinking about a lot just in the sense that could this actually affect the Premier League in the way Calciopoli affected Italy's global hegemony? I don't think Calciopoli killed off Italy, 'cause I think there were, there were, there were already ingredients in there and ingredients in the Premier League that meant one was gonna surpass the other, which is why I think this is gonna be a bit more insulated.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
And we'll also just expand on what we started discussing in the Q&A last week, which is about the, the scandal of Manchester City in the Premier League.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
Uh, and we'll answer one question in particular, which has started to be raised a little bit in England, and that is could the Premier League, if not collapse, but really take a punishing, uh, and maybe decline as a result of this scandal in a similar way to the way that the Serie A collapsed after Calciopoli 20 years ago? So we'll, we'll discuss, we'll discuss that as well, and we'll also have our usual Baggio prem face and Serie A's of the week.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
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Carlo GarganeseHOST
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Carlo GarganeseHOST
Well, they've, they've, I've seen pundits start to just, "Well, maybe the Premier League and the government," even the government are not allowed, "should be careful.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
They shouldn't punish Man City.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
They should try and do some kind of settlement, try and water it down, the punishment, because we don't wanna risk," and I've heard this have been said by some really high-profile pundits, "we don't wanna risk what happened to the Serie A after Calciopoli in 2006 where financially, uh, the league collapsed.
Carlo GarganeseHOST
Uh, the standing of the league collapsed and it led, you know, it wasn't the only reason, there are other reasons structurally that were already in place, but it led to the collapse of Serie A as the best league and one of the best leagues to what has, what has become of the Serie A." So, you know, it's an interesting one.
Gavin BucklandPANELIST
...
Gavin BucklandPANELIST
Serie A's demise, the Calciopoli-
Chris BeesleyPANELIST
Yeah
Gavin BucklandPANELIST
... um, you know, involving Juventus.
MarkHOST
So that, that, we, we all know about that, uh, that relegation.
MarkHOST
Uh, Calciopoli they called it right here.
MarkHOST
Yeah.
MarkHOST
A little bit more recently, like, it was about right after the Ronaldo era, uh, they had, uh, the capital gains thing.
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MatteoHOST
I know the s-
MarkHOST
Because there, there is precedent.
MarkHOST
When, when Juve was relegated in the Calciopoli, they were stripped of their title.
MatteoHOST
This is different leagues, though.
Scott MonroeHOST
It was 20 years.
Scott MonroeHOST
And it proved a pivotal point for Italian football because not so long after they win in Berlin, Calciopoli strikes, and you had all the problems with...
Scott MonroeHOST
I know James just rolled his eyes.
Scott MonroeHOST
[laughs] You had all the problems with Calciopoli, and then the two clubs to come out of it, Sven and Rosie, were Inter and Roma.
Scott MonroeHOST
And they, they were, like, the one-two for Serie A for a few years.
Scott MonroeHOST
But Totti, after coming back from the, excuse me, with a broken ankle, do you remember much of the 2006 World Cup, or- Were you watching football at that time?
AlanHOST
... and it's gonna come at me now.
AlanHOST
The Calciopoli scandal.
Jack StanleyHOST
So, I mean, we do have an Italian correspondent who I hope is gonna rate your pronunciation-
AlanHOST
Yeah
AlanHOST
Well, Calcio is like the word for Italian football, isn't it? And I'm guessing opoli is like monopoly and like, 'cause of all the money involved.
AlanHOST
I don't know.
AlanHOST
So the Calciopoli scandal, I think that's the last time I've gotta say it, so that's good.
AlanHOST
I didn't realize that this happened just before the 2006 World Cup.
Nathan A ClarkHOST
Buddy, you're the person to ask this.
Nathan A ClarkHOST
Is this bigger than Calciopoli?
BardiHOST
Um, no, I don't think so.
Nathan A ClarkHOST
Mm.
Nathan A ClarkHOST
Yeah
BardiHOST
... or both ways, and they're both very deceitful.
BardiHOST
But I dunno if it's worse than Calciopoli.
BardiHOST
I don't, I dunno.
Michael JarockGUEST
And if that happens, for me, I think the Premier League loses its image as a league.
Michael JarockGUEST
Just like Serie A lost its image when Calciopoli happened.
Michael JarockGUEST
Everybody turned their back on Serie A. Advertisements started getting worse and worse.
Michael JarockGUEST
Nobody was paying attention to the league.
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Michael JarockGUEST
I think I meant that...
Michael JarockGUEST
The Premier League is not...
Michael JarockGUEST
Because you were saying that the Premier League is too big to fall, but wouldn't you say the same thing about the Serie A back in the day when Calciopoli, before it happened, that you said, wow, Serie A is at the top.
Michael JarockGUEST
What could bring this empire down? Well, Calciopoli did happen, and then the empire fell, and now look at the Serie A.
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