Caesar

Planet of the Apes.

Caesar.

[laughs]

Yeah.

Oh, [laughs] Caesar.

Okay.

Yeah.

fuck? Just stick to being fucking...

Just play Caesar again, bro.

Play Caesar.

Go back to...

He's so good at that.

like...

I'm trying to think of how he sounds regularly.

Let me do Caesar.

He proved that digital puppetry could actually capture the microexpressions and the deep soul of an actor's performance.

He paved the way for Caesar in Planet of the Apes and the Navian Avatar.

it completely redefined what acting could be in the digital age.

But beyond the groundbreaking tech, what I love is how the essay revels in the hyper-specific granular details that only a true obsessive fan would ever notice.

oh right it's my seven uh my seven is from 2014 dawn of the planet of the apes which is the first sequel to um to uh the new series so the first one following rise it was directed by matt reeves who also did the batman um It was written by Mark Bomback, Rick Jaffa, and Amanda Silver.

And it starred, of course, Andy Serkis as Caesar.

Gary Oldman is the baddie in it.

Kerry Russell is wonderful in it.

My number six, so we're getting near the end, is Conquest for the Planet of the Apes from 1972.

And we may, and that's probably going to end up higher on your list, but and some of this we may cut out here, but this is The main reason for this, and Rob mentioned this when he was our guest on episode two, when we did Planet of the Apes with Robert J. Sawyer, and then he mentioned it.

The most important thing, I think, in this film are the speeches by Caesar.

Where there is fire, there is smoke.