Caboclo

I think that there is some pieces of this, again, depending on what communities you're talking about, have to do with how other people were described in their own countries, right? And so, you know, we have a notion in this country that Black is Black the same everywhere.

But Black is not Black the same everywhere, right? So if you think of us globally, like there's people in Brazil who call themselves Black and then there's people who are Pardo and then there's people who are this and Caboclo and who and And a lot of the countries outside of this country, particularly those that were colonized by the French, by the Portuguese, by the Spanish, there's all these various castes.

We get a flavor of that with the Louisiana Creoles that when I was younger would swear they were not Black people.

There was a lot of them that said that, that they were Creole and tried to make themselves separate from Black people, right? Oh, I've met