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Sep 9, 2026
56: Mold Exposure and CIRS: How to Find the Root Cause with Ariana Thacker
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8:07Ariana ThackerGUEST
So, um, as, as you know, there's 13 different symptom clusters, which has roughly 35 different symptoms, so that lit up for CIRS.
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8:14Ariana ThackerGUEST
There was also the biomarker testing, so C4a, MMP-9, TGF beta 1, MSH.
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8:20Ariana ThackerGUEST
All of that lit up too, as well as the HLA haplotype and the VCS contrast sensitivity test.
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8:25Ariana ThackerGUEST
So all that together confirmed the CIRS diagnosis, also paired obviously with the mold exposure in, in the home.
24 MINS LATER
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32:46Amy MyersHOST
... you know, for what you feel comfortable, walk us through what they are, and more importantly, what each of them is telling us?
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32:54Ariana ThackerGUEST
Yeah, absolutely.
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32:55Ariana ThackerGUEST
Um, so we look at C4a, um, which is a complement, and it's tied to the biotoxin illness pathway.
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33:02Ariana ThackerGUEST
Um, it also lights up with bacteria as well.
56: Mold Exposure and CIRS: How to Find the Root Cause with Ariana Thacker
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8:14Ariana ThackerGUEST
There's also the biomarker testing.
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8:16Ariana ThackerGUEST
So C4A, MMP9, TGF-beta-1, MSH, all of that lit up too, as well as the HLA haplotype and the VCS contrast sensitivity test.
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8:25Ariana ThackerGUEST
So All that together confirmed the SIRS diagnosis, also paired obviously with the mold exposure in the home.
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8:33Ariana ThackerGUEST
So that's how we came to terms with that.
24 MINS LATER
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32:39Amy MyersHOST
And so for those not familiar with Dr. Shoemaker's labs, I know it's a lot, but can you, you know, for what you feel comfortable, walk us through what they are and more importantly, what each of them is telling us?
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32:54Ariana ThackerGUEST
Yeah, absolutely.
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32:55Ariana ThackerGUEST
So we look at C4A, which is a complement and it's tied to the biotoxin illness pathway.
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33:03Ariana ThackerGUEST
It also lights up with bacteria as well.
Best of: CIRS and the Bio Toxin Pathway: A Deep Dive into Detoxification and Healing with Dr. Jenski
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12:13Christian JenskiGUEST
And then you activate these alternate complement pathways of inflammation.
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12:18Christian JenskiGUEST
That's where the C4A and the C3A come in.
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12:21Christian JenskiGUEST
And what else is going on?
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12:22Aaron HartmanHOST
Well, part of that activation of the complement, like you mentioned, is that you start chewing up the complement system and create C4A.
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12:29Aaron HartmanHOST
I think that the thing that's really interesting about that is that in the rheumatology world, they've known for years, like you can check a C3, a C4, a CH50, which is a test for the totality of your complement immune system.
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12:40Aaron HartmanHOST
When those are low, It means you're being chewed up by something.
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13:03Aaron HartmanHOST
Now, I've actually tested lots of my patients on this, and I will say the CH50 is high, but I've not seen C3 and C4 levels consumed by patients.
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13:11Aaron HartmanHOST
That's more the Lyme stuff.