Buckingham Nicks

Right.

So yeah, and so, and because of that, my engineer said, "Well, if you need a producer, you should talk to Buckingham Nicks," and I was like, "Eh, who's that? Who is that? Is that a guy? I don't know who's Bu- who's Buckingham?"

[laughs]

He said, "No, no.

Here, listen to this record." So I listened to the Buckingham Nicks and the White Fleetwood Mac album.

You recorded Magnet and Steel.

When you recorded that song, lots of times you'll have that feeling that, wow, this is a great song.

And I really think it was the combination of Christine McVie's songwriting and then Stevie Nicks' songwriting and Lindsey Buckingham's songwriting all, uh, being able to share a, a literal stage together, and to be comfortable sharing the spotlight in that way with three voices, that really gave them that oomph to reach the mainstream audience that they did with, well, first Fleetwood Mac, the self-titled record, and then Rumours.

And when Lindsey and Stevie made that Buckingham Nicks album, they were already developing a distinctive sound together.

What do you hear on that record that points directly toward that Fleetwood Mac of 1975 and then Rumours?

Their vocal harmonies are really special.

It's almost like it creates, like, a third voice, [laughs] um, when Lindsey and Stevie sing together.

So I think that was a big part of it.

And then I think the fact that they each had something unique to say about a relationship that they were also in together, um, is something that they started exploring on that Buckingham Nicks record.

What does it mean to, you know, write a song about, uh, troubles in a relationship with somebody that you are harmonizing with? Um, and what does that feel like, and what is that conveying to the listener? Um, those are things that they were starting to get into, um, as a duo, and then really leaned hard into once they got into Fleetwood Mac.

She was in Aspen in the 70s looking at the Rocky Mountains.

And their album, the Buckingham Nicks album, recently had dropped.

And what she tells is that basically her father had given her six months to decide whether to do this music thing or go back to school.

And so she was waitressing and cleaning houses.