Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And that, that, uh, as I saidIt was very close to the 30-30, um, performance and size and shape.

Not, they weren't interchangeable, but- Mm-hmm ... 30-30, uh, w- was our first, uh, was actually not our first smokeless powder cartridge.

We all say that, including myself, but it came out at the same time as a 25-35.

And from what I've been able to find out, the 25-35 was introduced at least a few days earlier.

Ah, okay.

Mm-hmm