Bryan Curtis

And one day, I think it was his kid, one of his children or something, is playing a video game is him.

And he's like, "Wait a minute.

They can take my image and use it like that and sell it to people, and I don't get any money for that?" And HBO and Bryant Gumbel, they covered the absurdity of that, and I thought that was also sort of influential, too, because that case is, like, really responsible or at least, you know, partially responsible for the lot of changes that we see in sports today.

Let me ask you a provocative question.

Okay.