Bruno Bettelheim

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Bruno Bettelheim age the refrigerator mother period and so that is being pushed out and here we are kind of behaviorists coming in and saying wait a minute we can actually teach these children it has nothing to do we can teach their parents we can teach this is not something that is from who are parenting, it's just that they have a much different way of learning.

And so that was the entire, I guess, my grad years at UCLA was about developing programming.

So most of what we did was we had children from Camarillo at this point, also deinstitutionalization took place during this period.

There were many great psychologists who came to this conference.

People like James Hillman, Bruno Bettelheim, I think perhaps Virginia Satir, and other leading psychologists of the era.

James Hillman, who was regarded as a possibly at that time the greatest living Jungian.

Well, here I was, a graduate student studying parapsychology.

You're writing about a metaphor for Super smart people or, you know,

there was decades ago, there was a psychiatrist at the University of Chicago named Bruno Bettelheim, who was kind of a horrifying character in many ways and wrote a weird book about fairy tales.

But one of his early case histories and what he was then the early studies of autism.

as I recall, was about a boy who thought he was a robot.

... that have these fears?

Well, Bruno Bettelheim translated Sigmund Freud, and he chose, uh, to translate, uh, Mr. Freud's word Ich or Ich.

[laughs] Instead of the simple me, [laughs] I, he decided to give it a fancy Greek name in English.

I see.

You could tell that she was nobility because of that.

You know, we think about the whole Bruno Bettelheim and then Chapman and why we tell fairy tales to our children.

What kind of education are we trying to inculcate, right? What kind of values are we trying to instill through these kind of fairy tales? until that the fact that this game like made fun of that like why do we tell this story because it really seems to be like yes the original point of the story is to be like yeah be a total like snobby complaining oh these mattresses aren't good enough like i'm i'm highfalutin because i'm so sensitive to these kinds of things like who wants to be with someone like that right and the story was like yeah she was miserable and like i was just like i didn't It was such a really interesting take on the story that I was like, I really enjoyed those kinds of moments in the game.

Yeah.