Bruce Nauman

And, I mean, outside of that, you know, you had Man Ray sculptures.

There was a Bruce Nauman sculpture, which I thought was a good class act.

And there was also a Martin Kippenberger lamp that was one of one.

He didn't really make any other ones of this one.

Yeah, I'm fully on board.

There's something that one artist, you know, Bruce Nauman, who I also love, he uses neon or used neon.

But he said, like, if you're an artist, anything you make in your studio is art.

Yeah.

The younger version of you, walking around Shoreditch or wherever, what would your advice, or to any artist, so to speak, starting out an art career, what sort of strategies, what sort of thoughts or advice you would give them to say, hey, this is how you should do it? Even though that question, to me, I feel like your answer would be, go with it and go with the flow.

But it's like, you know, what are the practical things that they should be knowledgeable about, you know, building a career?

Yeah, well, I think taking advice from Bruce Nauman about everything you make in your studio is artwork.

I think you should just create as much as you possibly can and document it.

And the artists who've shown there are serious.

Anselm Kiefer, Bruce Nauman, Bill Viola, Christian Boltanski, Sophie Calais, Wim Wenders, William Kentridge.

Its CO Existence poster project in 2000 traveled to more than 35 cities.

End of the family.

few years.

anyway I'll leave it at that but yes the first characters I really was thinking of just the tradition of satire and you know artists I've always really loved like Sigmar Polka who I think a lot of his work has a satirical bent to it and Pope L who I really like and Even some of those early Bruce Nauman performances in the studio, like walking in an exaggerated manner around the square, I always think there's some deadpan

humor in those.

You've also got a series called Craig Drennen is Awful.