Bruce Fogle

Now, I've mentioned this on the podcast, and I should have got the book because while it is my favorite quote, I always butcher it, and I don't know what I did with my books.

[laughs] So I'm not g- I'm gonna try not to butcher this quote too much, but to give you the general gist of the quote, and that's from Dr. Bruce Fogle from A Dog's Mind.

And this, this quote has always stuck out to me as, I think, a pivotal moment in my aha journey with dogs.

And I've read this book, like, I read this book, I think, when I was on the bus in the school.