Brown Brothers Harriman

Before that, I started my career at Sanford Bernstein and was there for a short while.

And then I did a short stint at Brown Brothers Harriman before I joined Zena back in 2003.

And just by way of education, you know, I was a finance major with a focus in operational management.

And interestingly enough, I I really wasn't a technology guy growing up, and when you're at a small firm, if you're any good at anything,

Today, global ETF assets surpassed $20 trillion at the end of last year.

BBH has highlighted that their estimate by 2030 is it'll surpass $30 trillion.

So it's a massive growth story.

We saw another study from PwC.