He, he did his apprenticeship.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it, it worked well with the, with the training that he needed to do because he wanted to be an elite bike rider and he dreamt about being a professional.

So you, uh, to be able to prepare the fish for the auction, uh, you have to get up really early and, and, and, and clean the fish and, and make it ready for those, the styrofoam boxes and send, and then it goes to the auction.

And then, uh, yeah, so he'd be off early and could do his training.

But the thing was with him, uh, his, on his own insistence, you know, 'cause he was, uh, he was a late, physically late kid growing up.

He was a small, he was a small kid.

And that type of racing in Denmark, uh, it was a lot about using your elbows, right? It was a lot about getting, getting up in front, using your elbows, riding in the crosswind.

I mean, that's what makes this year's battle so fascinating, isn't it? They are very well matched in lots of ways, but there are some key differences too.

It's Brian.

Well...

I mean, there are a lot of moving parts in running a winery and a vineyard, and there's certainly also a lot of moving parts.

The major difference is that the vineyard is not going anywhere, right? The cycling team is going everywhere.

And, you know, if you run a World Tour operation, you'll oftentimes find that you have three groups of riders, staff, racing at three different parts of the world at the same time.

So everything is moving at any given time, really.

Whereas a vineyard is still, but the seasons are moving around it.

What did you say to yourself? Why is it so important to me to create my own wine and what do you want to do with it?