In terms of the defense in general and all of the emphasis that the team put on it, what do you kind of make of just kind of that transition they have on the defensive side of the ball?

The biggest area of improvement is at edge rusher and linebacker.

They overhauled both areas, and both areas were needed.

It's a lot faster group this year.

At edge rusher, you've got Owe and Chason who are going to dramatically improve that group.

And at linebacker, you've got Leo Chennault and Sonny Stiles, of course, and Frankie Luther's back playing a role that he's more familiar with, playing downhill versus rushing off the edge.

And so you're going to see.

Just from a fan base standpoint, what has this ownership meant to to such a loyal fan base? And are there any critiques that you have with them a couple of years into this?

injuries hit he misses time he misses about half the season uh the defense isn't good they finished 5 and 12 uh at least they were better than the giants um what what went wrong last year and were there any bright spots

well let's see what went wrong okay so everything that went right in 2024 It reversed in 2025.

The injury luck was phenomenal in 2024.

All the older veterans they signed contributed in 2024.

So fast forward 25, they just had to run it back versus going heavy in free agency.

They made a couple of big trades.

They traded for Laramie Tunzel.

And I'm guessing that first six weeks might kind of set the tone for the whole season for you all.

and this is a this is the problem you want to solve

for sure so where this came from for me was was talking to um our cto tyler um the first time we got brought up was like well you know tyler's doing this thing where they're looking at building a new gps and i had kind of the same response like why like gps is is fine um like that doesn't really need it anything and i was over doing an mba in london at the time like well got some free time let's dig into this and actually take a look and started kind of peeling back the layers on it like okay i didn't realize that there's you know seven billion gps devices on the planet like there's soon gonna be more gps devices on the planet than people so like okay there's no shortage in the market size here um but do those devices actually need or want anything better And so, okay, let's start to look at where they're used.

And the original core area where Tyler had identified, he was working at Ford in their autonomous vehicle group.

And if you look at what's happening in the automotive world, which is a proxy of what's happening in a lot of just the physical AI world is the term for it these days.

Things are transitioning from a hands-on model to a hands-off model.

And so from an automotive standpoint, a GPS is good enough to tell a human driver what road they're on to an acceptable level of reliability.

And most people experience the, okay, well, I'm on the on-ramp, but I'm not on the on-ramp, but I can tell I'm not on the off-ramp.

What kind of new use cases in, say, mid 2030s can we expect Zona to deliver to the customers who are open to disclose the use cases? Sure.

Can you briefly explain to us what are those and why do they exist and what do they do? [chuckles]

For sure, yeah.

So augmentation services is, is kind of a, a, I guess a, a way to kind of...

A, a bit of a hack, I would call it almost, to get higher accuracy.

And so there's been a clear need and demand for higher than this meter level accuracy across many industries for decades.

And, uh, agriculture was really one of the first ones that had the big demand because the fertilizer savings, land savings, water savings, et cetera, that you can get if you can actually maintain centimeter level accuracy on a farm is, is just immense.

That...

And then, um, uh, why was this architecture chosen? And I think at, at Xona you guys are doing something different, and kind of why, why are you guys changing the architecture as well? Like, what, what drives the, the satellite architecture of Xona?

This has come on leaps and bounds in recent years.

It has hugely, David.

And it- it's, it's one of the areas of all th- these emerging technologies over the past 20 or 30 years that I personally find brilliantly enhancing.

And, um, it, it has impacted on my quality of life hugely.

I mean, like, these technologies, they're about independent living, they're about getting a greater access to the workforce, to education.

But from a quality of life perspective, I think the fact that now we can sit down and read our newspapers of choice once we have the appropriate technology skills that any fully sighted person can get, can have access to, and I think that's brilliantly empowering and enabling for us as, uh, people who would've, with sight loss.

So, um, again, I mean, like, you know, as I always say, I mean, when I was a, when I was a child, my only news sources really would've been the radio, maybe the six- six o'clock news on TV, unless I, you know, unless I pestered someone to read a, a newspaper article for me.

So they were originally designed for blind people, but now they're so mainstream.

Brian, as a contractor, what, what are your responsibilities as far as doing work within a given timeline?

So, uh, when we're bidding a project, we are given the timeline from the, the owner.

Um, in, in this t- case, we're, uh, if we're talking about TXDOT, um, we have, uh, different timelines for different phases.

So, um, as was mentioned, you know, there may be a certain work zone where we can do a two-lane closure versus a three-lane closure.

There'll be certain, um, time period that we can, uh, have that closure.

And as he was, uh, mentioning, uh, it's important that, um, s- you know, safety be adhered to.

A larger work zone for a contractor is better.

What should the public ultimately understand about the work that you're doing?

Yeah.

All these...

You know, the chipsets and a lot of the, the talent, the people that we're looking for, you know, it's a lot of electrical engineering, a lot of software engineering, a lot of mechanical engineering to put the pieces together, uh, which is, you know...

And the whole founding team came from Stanford.

Um, so we all kind of naturally landed here, which, which had the right resources around us.

Uh, the factory that we're stood up here is, it w- modeled more after, you know, a supercar assembly line than it is after a typical satellite assembly line.

And so it's something that, you know, this satellite factory is built to start providing, you know, multiple satellites per week, where to put that in context, the US currently produces maybe two navigation satellites in a year, uh, where with what we're building here, you know, we can produce that many satellites in a week-

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