But, um, but do you mind hitting on just the, the visual management side of, um, what you guys used at, on this pro- particular project? And then, uh, and then I have a question about trades after that as well.

Yeah.

So we, um, a few years back, we were able to, through some networks, uh, with our president and CEO, uh, we visited a, a billion-dollar job site.

And, um, I think that's really one of the special things about getting outside your bubble in a summit like this to just experience.

You, you take that small nugget and you go, "Wow, that is going to make a huge difference." And we put our own flavor onto it.

How can it work in our West Michigan market? How do we think this would work? But we saw two mega projects.

Um, it was a Sherwin-Williams project down, uh, town, a 35-story high rise, and then a, an R&D facility out in the country.

Mm