Brent Bookwalter

We look to who the great ones were as coaches or leaders in this, but they don't necessarily know how to develop this if they haven't gone through the process themselves.

Somebody like Brent Bookwalter, who's been on this show a lot, is a very unique situation where he's got the education and he's got the information and was an elite athlete at the same time.

There's not a lot of that combination, so I think going through it with people from the scientific world is really useful and maybe more useful even than bringing in a former athlete and going, "What's willpower to you?" "Uh, you just get up and do it."

Sometimes the people who are really good at an ability are the worst at explaining how they do those things, right?

You'd have...

A few guys in the tour that might maybe crack the top 10, but it's like onesie, twosie, TJ Van Gret, Carter, and, you know, Brent Bookwalter for a long time, obviously always strong

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