Brendan Venter

Um, and it's just from my point of view, trying to, trying to build on that, trying to add to it.

Um, and any takeaways I've got, I'm trying to be as honest as I can with the coaches or players or whatnot, and yeah, do what I can that way.

And when you've been watching on from afar the England team, what have you made of them?

Um, yeah, it's obviously been pretty up and down.

It's not my job right now, so, uh-

No, of course.

But I just wonder when you are as experienced as you are, both at club and country level, when you're in an environment, are you of the mindset that you're just gonna be as straight and as honest and if the coaches, whether it's here, whether y- you get back with England, if something's, you don't think is quite right, 'cause we know you were prepared to, you know, uh, 2022 when you were captain, there were times when you'd push back to Eddie.

Is that, is that really important when you've got the experience to make sure you really use it?