Brenda White

... and to also hire, you know, 'cause she was doing her whole band over, 'Could you get me the singers?' I was like, "Uh, okay.

I'm new here, but sure." [laughs] So I was like, so I like held auditions, the whole thing, and then ended up just going with somebody I already had met when I lived in Texas already, and that was Lisa Fisher and, uh, Brenda White King, who she r- recommended.

And so, um, and L- and so, so the, the, Lisa, we did the Chaka thing together, and I started.

Lisa was starting to do Luther at that point, and she didn't have enough time to do like all the sessions that she was doing before.