
Bree Groff
Author of "Today Was Fun: A Book About Work (Seriously)" and workplace culture expert, formerly CEO of change consultancy NOBL.
2
APPEARANCES
2
PODCASTS
012
DEC 30
JAN 6
JAN 13
JAN 20
JAN 27
FEB 3
FEB 10
FEB 17
FEB 24
MAR 3
MAR 10
MAR 17
MAR 24
MAR 31
APR 7
APR 14
APR 21
APR 28
MAY 5
MAY 12
MAY 19
MAY 26
JUN 2
JUN 9
JUN 16
JUN 23
JUN 30
JUL 7
JUL 14
JUL 21
JUL 28
AUG 4
AUG 11
AUG 18
AUG 25
SEP 1
SEP 8
SEP 15
SEP 22
SEP 29
OCT 6
OCT 13
OCT 20
OCT 27
NOV 3
NOV 10
NOV 17
NOV 24
DEC 1
DEC 8
DEC 15
DEC 22
DEC 29
JAN 5
JAN 12
JAN 19
JAN 26
FEB 2
FEB 9
FEB 16
FEB 23
MAR 2
MAR 9
MAR 16
MAR 23
MAR 30
APR 6
APR 13
APR 20
APR 27
MAY 4
MAY 11
MAY 18
MAY 25
JUN 1
JUN 8
JUN 15
JUN 22
JUN 29
JUL 6
JUL 13
JUL 20
JUL 27
AUG 3
AUG 10
AUG 17
AUG 24
AUG 31
SEP 7
SEP 14
Sep 14, 2026
How to Make Work Fun | Bree Groff
31:28
31:34
31:59
32:15
32:29

Bree GroffGUEST
What I read, right, is that you, what you don't want is chronic inflammation across your body.

Bree GroffGUEST
So that means something systemic is happening, chronic stress, um, being in that, like, hypervigilant state of constant anxiety where, according to Microsoft's report, and people are interrupted by a message, a meeting, or a, um, a notification every two minutes during the workday.

Bree GroffGUEST
So, like, that sort of chronically, um, threat-detecting state, that's where the trouble is for both our bodies of chronic inflammation and then also our lives of this sort of chronic overworking.

Bree GroffGUEST
So I've had teams lots of times work late, work long hours, but the trick was that that wasn't the expectation.

Bree GroffGUEST
Or in other words, I say, if your business runs on over-extracting from your people, taking more than you agreed to in your employment contracts, that's not a healthy business.
17 MINS LATER
EP. 41 Why Work Should Feel More Human
17:54
18:11
18:20
18:34
S
17:51speaker_2NARRATOR
right? Like,

Bree GroffGUEST
Um, yeah, you know, like at best you'd be innovative, like labeled the innovation person, like, or hope that, you know, like, oh, that's so-and-so again.

Bree GroffGUEST
The reason I think it's important is because no matter what industry you're in, human beings, like people want to feel like themselves.

Bree GroffGUEST
There's a cost to putting on a business mask every day, right? And frankly, some people have like they have to put on thicker masks than others, depending on how far they are from like the normative business culture.

Bree GroffGUEST
So frankly, if you're like a white dude in finance who likes sports, then you don't have to put on much of a business mask.
25 MINS LATER
