Okay.

Me, and I knew Allison Don, but I met Nick through Wise.

And I remember Nick playing from SD to shoot me from Elsinore.

So I could practice with him.

So we went to go practice in San Diego, I think.

I don't remember where we first practiced.

Ben Stern, who sings in this band called Fading Fast, he wasn't in Wives yet, but me, Vince, Nick, Don, Alex, I watched the set.

it's taking that concept and putting it in a place where we don't really need to have that concept