Yeah

... like crazy.

And then, um, so I learned, you know, a lot of just what he was thinking was completely different than anything I've ever thought.

You know, he's thinking about locating pitches, executing, and I'm up there being an 18-year-old guy like, "Uh, you know, I'm in a tight spot.

Let's see if I can throw this one harder to get out of it," type of deal.

And so learning how he went about trying to finesse guys was very helpful.

And then my, after my sophomore year, we had a bunch of good players on that team.

Was that a similar experience for you?