Brandon Whichard

Or do you not do that? Like, I don't know what the situation was here, but it seems like that would be the other thing.

And maybe, you know, then you have an even more difficult situation analysis from what you're saying Brandon like if you did share it with everyone and then everyone else evaluated and they were like no that's not bad that's not bad enough we should still do it that's even more complicated but at least you've like uh I don't know pride to coordinate with people in in this little window of time so I guess there's like a few missing details of like what would be the uh I don't know, ethical thing to do? Ethical is too strong of a thing.

But I wonder if we could just come

up with like a risk assessment would be, okay, so Chain Guard says it's being exploited.

defensible?

How do you monetize the stuff? Like in a defensible way so that you get enough revenue and profits to pay off these things.

I mean, I'm going to keep beating this dead horse, but, um, Brandon was a cursor ride or die guy.

Well, I think it's true.

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