Brandon McNulty

So that's the tricky thing is spotting the people who have the capacity to handle the pressure, the workload, the stress, the-- all of those things, and letting them thrive in that environment.

And then there's the people, I don't know the story super well, but I feel like Brandon McNulty is a good instance, a good example of somebody who had really a whole lot of talent, but the people around him said, "You're not ready yet," and they put him on this slower trajectory, and he's turned into a really big talent.

But it-- he probably wouldn't have gotten there if he had just been thrown in the deep end.

And so that's the big question I have for the two of you, is that mental side.

I'm getting, I'm getting ready, probably not tonight 'cause it's seven hours long, but I wanna go back and watch the, uh, the road race championship of, in cycling that happened just last weekend.

And spoiler alert, an American won the, the world championships in road racing last weekend, a guy named Brandon McNulty.

So I'm gonna watch that.

Where's he from? Any idea?

We have three guys in there that would not be talked about as favorites going into the race, but are all absolutely capable [laughs] of winning it.

Brandon McNulty, who was fourth in the time trial, Matteo Jorgenson, and Quinn Simmons.

Now, individually, none of those guys win the race ahead of Mathieu van der Poel or Tom Pidcock, for example.

So as a team, they're gonna have to attack.

I thought it was smart of Brandon McNulty to go first.

He attacked 32 kilometers go.

That's a long bomb.

That woulda been fun to watch.

We had, of course, Quinn Simmons, who was up there with Vandy P for a good long while there.

And then we had Brandon McNulty.

We know Brandon McNulty.

Brandon McNulty is on UAE.

And we've known – it's hard to know how good the other racers are on UAE because Pagaccia wins everything and everyone rides in support of him.

We've known McNulty is good for a long time.

that was a pretty unbelievable world championships do you know who won

wasn't it brandon mcnulty

Yeah, Brandon McNulty, an American rider for the first time in like 33 years is what I was hearing.

Would you have predicted that at all?

I

Just those two.

Okay.

And then the other four... were let's see the other so the other six actually obviously we had Brandon McNulty and then we had Quinn Simmons Matteo Jorgensen who is from Boise he rides for Visma And then Sean Quinn on EF.

Yeah, and they're not going to be title regattas climbing the leagues.

The sad thing with the title regatta thing, okay, it's injury, but we haven't seen the European jersey apart from, apart from what, when he got on the podium and then like a few days after Brandon McNulty wins it and he's out on a coffee ride.

So at least we will see a European champions jersey this year or this coming season.

So that'll be nice.

None of us made it as wacky as the podium that actually won the world.

So that was quite a funny thought.

But yeah, who do you think is going to win? Yeah, none of us put Matthews or Brandon McNulty on the podium.

No. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this European Champs because I think we're going to get some, like maybe a bit of a different person, which is very similar to World Champs, but I think this is going to be the year of kind of different champions.

No, it was the group of favourites there and I called it the day before the last episode.

I thought Quinn Simmons would be there and he was putting in a lot of work but Brandon McNulty just threw a little burner when no one was looking down the left-hand side and they gave him an inch and he took a mile.

See you later, up the

road.

I want to ask someone, just before we go on to that, I've got a photo here.

Oh, that's – mate, Jesus.

This is Brandon McNulty.

Now –

yeah it's yeah so i don't know either and i'm sure people will chime in um but it is confusing in america uh for sure it's different

you know it's not confusing brandon mcnulty

No doubt

about it.