Brainkind

Together they explore how our perspectives on leadership change with experience, the lessons we learn along the way, and what leaders might need for whatever comes next.

I'm Jane Eyde, Chief Executive of Akivo, and I'm kicking off this second series with Irene Shabawali, former Chief Executive of Brainkind, who is currently taking a sabbatical after stepping away from the Chief Exec role.

In our conversation, we look at leadership from the perspective that comes with having a little distance from the day job.

We explore how the pressures facing leaders have changed, why creating space to think beyond the immediate matters and the growing importance of collaboration as we navigate an increasingly fast-changing world we also talk about what organizations and boards might need from the next generation of leaders and why as irene puts it we may no longer have the past to fall back on and before we wrap up irene reveals who she'll be interviewing in the next episode as the baton passes on Irene, it's lovely to have you with us.

Well, hello, Jane, and thank you very much for having me.

I am Irene Shobhawale.

I have been, up until very recently, I was the chief executive of Brainkind.

And Brainkind is an organisation that provides rehabilitation and support and care for people who wake with brain-related conditions.