No?

No. I've never- Never had a plan, knew what I wanted to achieve.

It's funny how your kind of, your perspective changes, and very much more so when you have children.

But, but yeah, I, I've done a lot in a very short space of time.

I was actually having this conversation with someone yesterday.

I kind of...

I w- I don't like to play the game, but people always think I'm a lot older than I am, so not many people actually know how old I am.

How does this shoe feel?

And it's all becomes reliant on interventions and tech rather than the human side.

Completely agree with that.

I mean, my experience with onboarding is kind of two sides, I suppose.

So my business is very small.

I only employ two people.

So we're properly close knit.

I'm working with them the whole time.

Conscious of the fact that we've honed in a little bit on what might be classified as bigger organisations, but how does this really, in the end, differ for a small business when you're, I suppose, a little under-resourced in relation to a bigger organisation that may have departments upon departments to support this? When you're a small business, how do you ensure that you get that right and that you're being competitive, I suppose, with the ones that may be more resourced?