Brad Jacobs

But yeah, it's consolidated at the top.

Brad Jacobs, Matt Dunstone rounding out that top five.

But yeah, congrats to Yannick Schwaller.

Really, really great team, great group of guys.

Yeah, well, I it just was something that I noted.

I just felt like, OK, Jordan is playing some of these ends comfortable in the knowledge that he may have to draw his way out of trouble, which is that is a facet of the modern game, especially with the five rock rule with no tick.

you know I think those are all things that you're going to continue to develop but it was it was really fun to watch it feels like you know we're just kind of watching you develop that in real time and I think a lot of the fans maybe wouldn't know this but but I know this because I know both of you but you've also over the last few years developed a pretty close relationship with Brad Jacobs I know that he's a guy that has offered a lot of advice to you and whatever can you tell me a little bit about that is is is the strategy part of that as well like what are some of the things that you talked about brad about

well i like i haven't you know i haven't really talked to brad like too much about about strategy at all he's just been like a really good you know role model and just the guy that i sort of look up to as well and he's been you know nice enough to be like personal to me and you know you know chat with me and say congrats if we you know like he he was one of the first guys to say congrats when we won the pre-trials and when we lost game two, he, he, uh, you know, said, you know, good luck.

And again, recognizing that what Scott and I, when we play on Monday nights...

Us up by one with the hammer is very different than Rachel Holman or Brad Jacobs up with one with the hammer.

So does the app, how does it acknowledge and deal with that? If it's giving me a win probability, is it based on my team? Is it based on the totality of people who have played with that score line? And, and how, how can I then as the end user, maybe use that information to potentially guide my decision-making?

Yeah.

We've got the handles sorted, Kevin, yep, yep.

How does that all suss out looking at rules and the biggest difficulty of a Mark Kennedy can think this and another, you know, Brad Jacobs could think the absolute opposite and down from there.

Yeah, I mean, look, I think the one thing that we are clear of and one thing that we've got to get better at is the language in the rulebook as well.

You know, the rulebook needs to be written effectively in international English.