Bob Roth

I've been meditating for years, but I was introduced to TM about three years ago by two of my guests.

And I got connected to Bob Roth of the David Lynch Foundation.

And he turned me on to a local teacher here in Southern California.

And I've been doing it, as you know, daily ever since.

First of all, not drinking helped a lot.

Uh, uh, s- uh, meditating, I've been meditating for years, but I was introduced to TM about three years ago by one of... two of my guests, and I got connected to Bob Roth of the David Lynch Foundation, and he turned me on to a local, uh, teacher here in Southern California.

And I've been doing it, as you know, daily ever since, and it's really helped me.

And, uh, just a lot...

It-- That's ironic.

For example, this big fuss about transcendental meditation, or TM, is blowing up, and everything represented by Bob Roth on the subject of meditation completely goes against what Dogen originally set out to do.

And this, in many ways, is just a money grab.

We are told to count our breaths or repeat a, a random, yet somehow expensive mantra in our heads to achieve this state of ecstasy.