Bob Ricks

We do have a really special guest today who I first got to know in the Keating administration from 1995 through 2003, Mr.

Bob Ricks, who I knew as the Governor's Cabinet Secretary of Safety and Security and the Commissioner of the Department of Public Safety.

but has a long and varied law enforcement career prior to that and post that.

And I'm going to let him right now run down his background, and then we're going to get in, Bob, and have a really good conversation about some really high-profile subjects and events that have happened in our country over the last many, many years.

So tell us who Bob Ricks is.

Tell us your journey, yeah.

My journey is a little bit different than most in that I spent 48 years in law enforcement.

He was immersed in it.

Go, go, go, go, go.

Around 10:20 AM, FBI Special Agent Bob Ricks is notified of another device found inside the building resembling a bomb or rocket.

Eight minutes later, he makes the call to evacuate immediately.

Just moments before, Mike Shannon comes across Amy Downs, buried under 10 feet of rubble.

William Sessions was the mayor and a judge in Waco before he became director of the FBI.

ATF Director Steven Higgins and FBI spokesman Bob Ricks both attended Baylor University in Waco.

And President Clinton recently appointed a new commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service.

She too is from Waco.

From this point on, all news people will be kept three miles away from the Mount Carmel Center.

ATF agents armed with machine guns and state troopers are posted at roadblocks to keep citizens five miles from the Mount Carmel Center.

The only news that anyone in the United States will receive will be the official version told by Agent Bob Ricks of the FBI.

It is illegal to use military troops against United States citizens under the Posse Comitatus Act, Eighteen United States Code Thirteen Eighty-Five, but the FBI brings in tanks from nearby Fort Hood, a US Army installation, to surround the house.