How did that sort of shape itself for you?

Yeah, it's interesting.

So coming out of school, and this is where if we go back to the whole culture thing as well, I was the oldest grandkid on both sides of the family.

And there was this expectation, Middle Eastern culture, if you're not a lawyer or a doctor or an engineer, you're pretty much failed at life.

And so there was just this expectation that I'd finish school and go to university.

And studying for me was so hard.

Like I really struggled to sit down and retain all that information.

Because if I had kept going the way I was going, probably the previous 20 years of that, that was a cycle that had to be broken and I did whatever I could to stop it.