BMC Software

Because take a look at some of the industries that Blue Owl Capital is involved in, and this will all start to make sense.

You have companies that they borrow to like BMC Software, Pet Vet Care, and also Bazooka Candy.

And these loans stretch into ordinary parts of the economy, like software, like veterinary care, and discretionary consumer products like candy.

And if people are spending less at these venues, well, then those businesses are gonna have a hard time repaying their loans.

It'd be five years in November.

And I had my job interview at the BMC software office in Bromsgrove and I met Mark.

And I worked at BMC for 18 months.

And I was, during that time, I was sort of looking for, you know, guidance going, where should I end up? What's the kind of ideal journey? And as you touched upon, there's not many people in this industry who probably don't know Mark.

And I started off as a associate consultant on a trainee scheme called Mainframe in Training.

And then eventually Mark started his own company, Vitaly, and I was, I think, the 15th person to join.

So I left BMC Software, I joined Vitaly and eventually became a full consultant.

And, um, I'm still on that kind of pathway towards becoming a senior consultant one day, hopefully an architect.

So me switching actually started with one of my tennis students, one of the kids I was coaching, his father.

His father worked at a company called BMC Software.

And I told, broke the news to my team, hey, I'm guys, I'm quitting teaching.

Like, what are you going to do? I'm like, I think I'm going into sales.

He goes, have you thought about like tech sales? I'm like, I'm thinking about anything sales.

So he, I really, I left.

And then within the next month or so, I was working at a company called BMC Software.

I was there for about 13 months or so.

Yossi Hollander was there near the beginning of what we now call Startup Nation.

He founded New Dimension Software in 1983. took it public, and eventually saw the company acquired by BMC Software in one of the landmark Israeli technology deals of its era.

But what makes Yossi's story particularly interesting is what happened next.

Rather than simply build the next company and chase the next exit, he made a conscious decision to devote much of his time and resources to philanthropy, particularly the State of Israel, Holocaust education, and the fight against anti-Semitism.