Black phoenix

And the most recent ones that we have created are an audio descriptive, uh, introduction to some of the works currently on display in Toi Art at Te Papa.

So we've described 13 different works from a very large Ralph Hotere work, Black Phoenix, which is monumental.

It's huge, but it's also fragile because a lot of the wood in it is covered in charcoal, uh, to the very smallest.

And the recordings are available for anyone to listen to anywhere.