Björn Höcke

Now, of course, these parties are not stupid, and, uh, many members are clever enough not to use this language explicitly, yeah? They...

So Björn Höcke says insinuations to some slogans which were used, uh, in the 1930s, but he doesn't use the same slogans, but he insinuates it.

So there are certain rhetorical tools to do that.

Uh, sometimes people just Use this language like, uh, in Austria, Mr. Kickl just uses some Nazi words, yeah? So, uh, I think, um, in these countries, this discussion is allowed, yeah? Of course, you should ask, can you forbid a party in Austria? The Freedom Party has now in the opinion polls 37%, yeah? Of course, you cannot forbid it, yeah? But the discussion of where are the red lines, yeah? What, what can be said explicitly? What is hate speech? What is racism, et cetera? I think these discussions are important, and there, there are also laws against that.