Birmingham Botanical Gardens

That's way too far.

But how do you, even then, I think the Birmingham Botanical Gardens plays a huge role in making sure that good plants are available for gardeners.

I'm just telling you, I just can't say this enough.

You know, we think of gardening as a private affair and that's okay because we can just go to the Home Depot and Walmart and keep it, but no, that's not going to work.

And, and I've seen it used as a screen or a kind of a hedge.

I, I, and I know they did that at Birmingham Botanical Garden and, and, and it's...

A lot of times you'll have a, like, you may have a hedge that has a little bit of shade and a little bit of sun area and, and, you know, it will tolerate, uh, those different conditions and, uh, it's just tough.

Tough.