Billy Morris

It was not better with the ranch.

He literally poured a gallon of ranch on this stuff, and he had Billy Morris come out and gourmet cook it for him.

Listen, when we worked at iHeart, I would always have to go in the studio after him.

He would purposely, because the smell of ranch, it's just one of those that I'm like, as soon as I smell it.

But that didn't really exactly happen.

That bands like my buddy Billy Morris with Warrant, that they were able to keep it going well into the 90s, and then eventually tastes did change.

But I did see in the late 90s, early 2000s, actually right around this time, around 9-11, that rock music, especially nu metal, which was big at the time, stopped... stopped not only charting, but they were changing radio station formats from, hey, we're going to do a harder edge rock to, we're going to do alternative now.

We're going to play Death Cab for Cutie.