Billy Lane

And the level that guys were taking these motorcycles to and the idea of hand-building something, it was really inspiring to me.

So when I started building watches, Those names from back then, Indian Larry and Billy Lane and Jesse and all these guys, they were like, although it's a completely different industry, they were really big influences, actually much bigger than anyone in the watch world.

Well, I think one of the worst things about humanity is what I would call jealousy.

And that goes with...

It's really, really phenomenal.

And again, that goes towards that time period and the creativity that was coming out of these people.

I mean, like the truth is you go see somebody like Billy Lane and I don't know if you ever went to a shop when it was in Melbourne, Florida, but like you're around a modern artist.

That's what you're around.