Billy Joe Shaver

Then you find Cisco, Huskin, and all that.

But at that same time, when I was, you know, getting into it, all of a sudden, man, you had Guy Clark and Talis Van Zandt and Billy Joe Shaver and Willie and Jerry Jeff and all these guys, you know.

And there wasn't really any big ego thing.

I mean, Jerry Jeff was a great songwriter, but he would always include a song by an unknown young songwriter on his album, Gary Don or, you know, Guy Clark or me.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I grew up listening to Merle Haggard, who's obviously one of the greatest ever.

But Billy Joe Shaver and a lot of the Texas stuff, you know, that was big, you hard to avoid, you know, all the great Willie Nelson songs.

I mean, that kind of, well, and then, you know, like my granddad, I spent a lot of time with him when I was a kid, and he loved Hank Williams, and, you know, damn, it's hard to get better than Hank Williams.

Yeah.

Marijan Wilkin passed away in 2006 at the age of 86 from heart disease.

marijan was a country music songwriter who was nicknamed the den mother of music rose she was famous for writing country music classics like the long black veil and also for helping to discover mr chris christopherson Billy Joe Shaver passed away in 2020 at the age of 81 from a stroke.

He was a singer-songwriter who was a pioneer of the outlaw country movement who wrote almost the entirety of Waylon Jennings' breakthrough album Honky Tonk Heroes.

Bill Beach passed away in 2024 at the age of 92 from unspecified causes.

I talked about her in the first episode.

She introduced me to Billy Joe Shaver.

She took on like a managerish role for me.

But then eventually, my mom was working at McLennan Community College, and I made my first C or D at Baylor, and I wasn't going to be able to rush and be in a sorority, which was devastating.

My mom, Debbie, I started playing out and people in general.

I was kind of a big fish in a small pond around Waco.

And then I met Billy Joe Shaver.

He was the first star who said, hey, you've really got something here.

little later than that too but and that was was that when you first met bob no i'd met him in the year before i think it must have been 93 um could have been 92 but i think it was 93 because they came up to cleveland to sign with scat records and uh they were brought to a place where i was playing with a friend of mine a more country-leaning friend of mine who kind of came up through the punk ranks and the, he knew the Ubu people and had bands that kind of sounded like Gang of Four and Ubu, but he started to get this guy, Gary, Gary Lupico had a band called California Speedbag who were really great.

And he had a voice like Waylon Jennings and he really liked Billy Joe Shaver and things like that.

And he wrote sort of semi-humorous songs with this like deep voice.

There was a steel player.

Get thee behind me, Satan.

Billy Joe Shaver.

And also John Anderson, who just passed away this week.

We're going to honor John Anderson all morning this morning with this great song.

You have a terrorist organization that is endorsing candidates all over, but particularly in the great state of Texas.

We're going to cover all of that.

Billy Joe Shaver.

I don't think we get in this cut.