Billy Hutchinson

But also how loyalists then responded to this.

What are the... turncoat loyalist, Billy Hutchinson, who had been jailed for murder, a loyalist paramilitary, who then became a big player in PUP, a sort of converted loyalist political organization, advocating for democracy.

He was a supporter of famine events and came to them here, to here, and one in the United States.

So you find that when you dig deeper, that it resonated with a lot more people than perhaps you would imagine.