Bill Wallace

Or you can just get the guy expecting the double step one too and throw the inside low kick.

If you go watch classic Bill Wallace fights, every time he jabs, his right foot comes up underneath him because that's how he set up his left leg.

And I think he had a exhibition boxing match with Tommy Hearns when they were a bit older.

And he landed a lot of jabs on Tommy Hearns, despite Tommy Hearns being one of the all-time great boxers and Bill Wallace not being a boxer.

Tommy Hearns found it very confusing that he was moving his legs in this way.

Because in boxing, it's like, why would you do that? You never want both feet underneath you.

You doubt me, but here's, here's a picture of us together.

And it's like, yeah, I mean, I've, you know, I've been to a few seminars with Bill Superfoot Wallace, but I do not claim that I have trained under him or that he is my teacher or anything.

I went to a couple of seminars with him, so...

Yeah, I would say that's a big one.

You know, so interesting is, you know, all types of people come in all types of packages.

And, you know, when you look at somebody, you have no idea, for example, if they're the sixth Dan Black Belt in karate, working with the legend and myself, Bill Superfoot Wallace.

It's interesting how humility plays into great discipline as well.

When you're helping out these people in these critical financings, as you said, within 72 hours, humility also has to play a great role in what you're doing.

Yeah.

And we got into kickboxing under Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, and he's known throughout the martial arts circles as some people re- regard him as the best kicker in the world in his peak, and also some people say he was the best kickboxer, uh, at his peak.

So I got to work out with him for several years, for about, I think it was nine.

And then, uh, along the way, around 2006, I discovered jujitsu because MMA was getting big, and I think you needed to have some kind of ground background in terms of working from a grappling standpoint.