Bill Oakley

Oh, yeah, yeah.

We've, we've heard Bill Oakley talk about in his years [laughs] that, like, it was frustrating for him that they were doing some of their best work, but they were in the 40s and being beaten by Mad About You and Touched by an Angel-

Mm

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Yeah.

Yes.

Actually, we asked Bill Oakley.

I think it was on the record.

Instead of fleeing this town, I'll stay here and grow fat off kickbacks and slush funds.

And it's directed by Wes Archer, written by Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein.

And this was in the top 100 as well.

Where did we have this? I want to say it was right around 50 as well, right?

Well, I think I can safely say that I've now ticked off an item from my bucket list.

I mean, we've talked about how, like, we kind of started this show mostly because I wanted to talk to Bill Oakley.

And then when we did that and we realized we might be able to get, like, other Simpsons writers, it was like, well, I want to talk to John Vitti because he's great.

the person who I basically consider to be like probably one of my favorite of the original writers.

This is when we wrote at Gus's, Gus Van Sant-

And we also wrote at Lauren's office at Paramount, 'cause I remember we did have Bill Oakley on Face-

That's right

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Yeah, it's definitely a universal experience.

Oh, and the writers of the episode, Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein, on the commentary that's now 21 years old, they said they remember that, like, seemingly there were a lot of negative reactions immediately, like, from school-age children like yourself.

Yeah.

They, they said they got, like, letters from kids sent in complaining about it.

It's cops all the way down, unfortunately.

[laughs]

Boy, we have to find out if Bill Oakley or Josh Weinstein were ever turned away at the border.

It sounds like they would be.

And there's one episode where they're talking about an episode that he's written where everyone on the commentary...

So I think Bill Oakley might be one of them, in fact, former guests of the show.

I'll mention that at any given opportunity.

And...

Bob Daley, who wrote for Frasier and was producer, he's been on.

And Bill Oakley, who was showrunner with Simpsons, has been on.

So Ken Levine, he kind of is a collection of...

I