Bill Kelty

I mean, Bill, uh, who...

Bill Kelty, who als- who worked obviously with him-

Former ACU, uh, president, secretary.

Yeah

Um, and, uh, I talk to Bill a bit from time to time and, and he's brilliant too.

I mean-

Well, Bill Kelty's been very much at odds with the government, hasn't he?

Sure.

They didn't want to look like crazy internet guys, like, like me and you or, well, it's a bit mainstream now, but it wasn't then.

Um, Yeah, there was an interesting one on Bill Kelty in the Saturday paper, former ACTU secretary, architect of Australia's super system, they say.

Oh, it was actually written by Stephen Long, this article.

Yeah, I know Stephen from ABC days.

That top rate is too high.

And even people on the left, like Paul Keating and Bill Kelty have pointed that out, that 47 cents for the dollar is egregious.

And it's relatively high compared to other countries.

And it also kicks in at less than double average earnings.

But there's no productivity.

And that's where Bill Kelty came in with the Treasurer and Paul and Bob Hawke and basically said, right, we're not doing that.

We need more productivity.

So hold off on wages.

Yes, I pinched the number from Kevin Rudd at the National Press Club the other day, and he made the point, and I think quite a few others on the Labor side, if you like.

Bill Kelty.

Bill Kelty, yeah.

Paul Keating says taxes need to come down a lot more.

If you have this combination of policies, bigger government, higher taxes, higher energy costs, and you re-regulate the job market, when you need more flexibility to deal with, say, AI, where you're going to get all this productivity growth, apparently, it's pretty predictable what's going to happen.