... and your career there?

You know, it was through Les Tunnock, my brother-in-law, that I started working for them as a contractor, you know.

And it, it...

The first job I did, we talked about it earlier, uh, went to Glencripesdale to, to measure timber that the St. Kilda people had planted, 5.9 meter logs on the pier at Glencripesdale of Loudale, and spent some time with this, uh, God, I can't remember his name.

Brazendale, Steven Brazendale.

Uh, and w- you know, again, you're working for Scottish Woodlands.

You think, I would love to be doing what Steven's doing, you know.

How about the introduction of the deer onto the island and that?

So you've got more time than expected,

Bill.

Okay.

I will read from my notes very slowly.

I will just read.

I'm not as confident as these guys.

But anyway, my wife says I've got to slow down.

How do you make people pro-deer?